Practical Access Podcast
Dr. Lisa Dieker, a professor at the University of Kansas in the Department of Special Education, and Dr. Rebecca Hines, a professor at the University of Central Florida in the College of Community Innovation and Education, have worked with schools and parents across the country. Dr. Dieker directs a center in the Achievement and Assessment Institute called Flexible Learning through Innovations in Technology in Education (FLITE) and Dr. Hines directs several doctoral grants and the teacher preparation program. In this podcast, they take a fun and informal look at "practical" solutions from teachers, parents, and people with disabilities. The approach in this podcast is to provide fast, flexible thinking about "real" life problems. This podcast is not about the "legal" approach but their best advice from personal and professional experience.
Practical Access Podcast
S9 E5: Let's talk about Nonverbal Communication
In today’s episode, we talk about all Nonverbal Communication!
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Welcome to Practical Access. I'm Lisa Dieker.
Rebecca Hines:I'm Rebecca Hines,
Lisa Dieker:our favorite topic,
Rebecca Hines:our favorite topic. Today, Lisa, I kind of wanted to dig into communication. Okay. And I'll tell you why. So
Lisa Dieker:it's only about talking right?
Rebecca Hines:All about talking in which you are definitely an expert. So, communication is kind of on my mind right now for a variety of reasons. One is because I am so interested in collaboration among teachers, you know, and not just between not just co teachers, but all teachers. Yeah, any teacher. So communication is really on my mind, and also for students. And I know that you've been
Lisa Dieker:you mean, flipping someone off isn't a good way.
Rebecca Hines:For some, some, I guess it works. But in the classroom, I don't recommend it.
Lisa Dieker:No either.
Rebecca Hines:So here's the first thing about communication. And I will tell you, you know, my sister, yep. And you know, we've had Cheryl on before, so my sister is an actress. And I've talked about how, as somebody who has been on a TV show that is improv based, and who has taught courses in improv, she definitely knows how to get a message across not only verbally, but also non verbally.
Lisa Dieker:Absolutely. So important.
Rebecca Hines:Yeah. And and so that's, that's a big piece of it is how to things look,
Lisa Dieker:I love to watch her and I can see your voice and see her face. Like that's my favorite part of the show. It's not a words or words are good, too. But her face. I mean, it's really powerful. If you get a chance to she should look at that, because it is
Rebecca Hines:alert Lisa Dieker. Plugging Cheryl. Yes, it's true. But more importantly, you know, what I've realized over the years, you know, lucky to have a sister who has so much fun, but the thing that Cheryl brings, when you when you meet her and you've met her, you know, to any room is a sense of warmth, a sense of everybody's here together to have a good time you like to talk about a party, which is ironic if you
Lisa Dieker:Yeah, I think the first thing is really that presence that I'm with you, I'm not here to tell you. And I think that's really hard for a lot of people is, well, if you're in the room as the expert, you know, I come in as the CO writer, I'm the expert, I come to the parent conference, I'm the expert. Now you're really not the parents, the expert in the room, by the way, but because I
Rebecca Hines:let's again listening but let's take that even down to the kid level. Imagine that, you know, you walk into your classroom. We start every, you know, school year with and I understand why oh, here's the rules, and here's the syllabus and all of this. But the first thing we need to establish is this feeling of we're a team, no matter who's in there, your students, your para And you look mean? Yeah. Yeah. You know, not you, you'd have to be the bravest person in here to come ask you to dance because it looks like you're gonna say no, you know, they see me out here dancing. But you know, they know that I'm, I'm going to do what I can to make sure that we're all having fun. You know what I mean? And so and so one thing that I really learned from that, though, is she looked back at me because I really did say that, you know, I
Lisa Dieker:Well. And it's funny because we're talking about siblings. So I'll throw it a plug. My brother, who was the CFO in Washington, DC, and now is the vice provost and CFO at the University of Kansas. I laugh because we're very different if you met him, I'm sorry, Jeff, but we're very different. And he would agree with that. But he's, he has a really weird job is to tell people bad news
Rebecca Hines:Yeah, definitely. It's clear messaging, you and I talked about that all the time. So I have, you know, we have we have lines that we just repeat over we have our broken record things for things that we really believe in. So it doesn't matter if you're a naysayer, as a teacher, no matter what a kid did. I didn't sit there saying the million things. They said that's not appropriate.
Lisa Dieker:And I'll just end with you know, humor is great. Don't make fun of somebody but don't be afraid to laugh at yourself. Because when you laugh at yourself, others feel a little more comfortable. Yeah.
Rebecca Hines:Well, I think that that's something that I'm You know, again, I've had a lifetime of. So if, you know when you're thinking about it, I'm going to tie it to a topic that we've talked about a lot, which is, you know, co teaching. So one little tip for CO teachers is, at least put the other person if you're if you find yourself walking into a room to teach with someone else. Make
Lisa Dieker:Great. Well, if you have questions for us, please send us a tweet @accesspractical or you can join us on our Facebook at Practical Access.